Hi , I have tried to get info on if i can tow this trooper all wheels down. One told me that I needed to get manual locking hubs and I seem to remember seeing something about that but can't remember where now. It has a 5-Speed stick and the transfer case doesn't have a neutral position. That means that I have to put the gear shifter in neutral and the rear wheels are spinning along. Someone told me that I may need to get a driveshaft disconnect for the rear axle. The front axles are on a auto lock. But to lock them you have to shift them to 4X4 mode,[ Hi or Low], It is a manuel transfer case too! I have already tried to get remco but there site is undergoing a update so I am really wondering where else I can go to and try. Any Ideas??

I have a 98 Trooper and have wondered the same thing. Mine has no manual hubs....it's a switch in the cab and the tranny is auto. we would love to use it for our toad. It's been a great vehicle and paid off 8 yrs!

Cajuncruser, I am going crazy about this as I can't get anyone to even commit to a no or yes?? There is a forum that is for Isuzu's and there is nothing about the Trooper and being able to tow it. The other rv forums I belong to have all kinds of different answers but NO one that has..towed one and or how they did it?? I like the trooper but if I can't tow it I am wasting my time...  I got ahold of Remco and they said that there is nothing in the book for the 1990 trooper!! Couldn't get any answer one way or another. Dealer is just as bad... I am going to go ahead and see what happens. Will try some short runs first. If it tows ok fine, if not I am  going to be looking for something else....Dan

I have been following along but don't know anything about that particular vehicle. 

I had a 95 Ford Exploerer that Ford said could have a kit installed and be towed four down.  I ordered the kit and then found out that I had one of the few with a different transmission that wouldn't allow the kit to work. 

Know what I did?  I put the front wheels on a tow dolly and pulled the drive shaft.  Four cap screws from the front and four back and I marked the alignment with paint so I always got it back in the same way.  Took five minutes to take it out, and five more to put it back.  Pain in the a--, but it worked.

Afew things about towing the trooper, 1st check that the the front auto lock hubs are working corrctly, jack the front wheels and rotate them, they should rotate freely and the front drive shaft should not rotate. every thing in the front axle rotates but the ring and pinion gears, it all free wheels. next you need to disconnect the drive shaft in the rear, even if it was 2 wd. DO NOT TOW WITH OUT DISCONNECTING, you will damage the output bearing and the speed gear bearings of the transmission for they will not be lubricated.  the trans is lubricated by the rotating counter shaft, which is turned by the input gear. An auto trans is lubricate by the pump when the engine is running, with out disconnecting the driveshaft you would have to have the engine running and trans shifted to neutral to not cause damage.,

  Thank god, Someone who really knows what will or will not tow!!!! You get the prize for that answer!!! I have been on line and on the phone trying to find out and NO one would say NO, Or yes for that manner!! I had a feeling that it would need a driveshaft disconnect and maybe the front hubs would need to be changed to manual locking hubs. I still don't know about that yet but I can tell you that if, it is in two wheel drive position and You back up about 4 feet, It is unlocked. But I am wondering if they may try to lock up if it somehow sensors that the rear wheels are not turning and the front wheels are turning?? I don't really know how the system works on this thing.  I have checked to see that both hubs are unlocked and the transfer case is in two wheel drive but in for hi or low they are unlocked till you roll about 3-4 feet. They unlock by shifting to two wheel and then backing up about 4 feet. The answer I got from a guy at Remco said that I needed to put on manual locking hubs and make sure the transfer is in neutral before towing. I tried to tell him there was no Neutral on the transfer case and he told me that if it is a manual transfer case it should have a Neutral...I tried but realized I found them with there lights on but no one home!! I will try and see if I can get another jug head and see if they have a disconnect that will work on this drive shaft. I am not sure about the manual locking hubs.. Any ideas on that?? Thanks for the help so far, You are the only one to have a direct answer to a direct question!!  Dan

  Hi, Well, We got our Bumper and hitch both done and like the Mazda the fan was Plastic and I added the electric fans I had saved from the Mazda. I also added the smaller fan from the a/c too! Charged the a/c but there is a problem with it as it doesn't blow cold and the pressure drips on the low side so the expansion valve must be stopped up. Still doing nothing to the MH but i need to get on the dealer about the control board. I still have a few things to finish it and the truck will be done. Get teh kitchen done and teh painting of the stripes done and that will be all of it!! Right now, All that could happen next year.
  I got another test to have done as they took blood from me last time and now they want more testing, Have to go in Tuesday! I wish these doctors would give ya a straight answer...Just once!!
  Will check in later, Dan

can relate with the drs.!!!!!! i had "issues" for years (about 30) before medicine caught up with me. i have a congenital heart issue that they cannot do anything for.

if they had found it 30 yrs. ago, who knows...............but science was finally able to "detect" this issue only 8 yrs. ago.

good luck with your tests!!!!!!!

richard

I believe the front axle hubs free wheel, Full size chevy uses an electric actuator, from 1988 to present, before that its was a vulosity type design in the wheel bearing area it self, which was activated by the rotating drive shaft when in 4wd drive, on this design only the wheel would spin not u-joints in the differential, this is the old straight front axle design, still used in full size dodge trucks today.  And this the same style used in your Trooper, As to wheather you need front hubs on your Trooper, no you do not, As long as those auto locks work correctly. Alot of people replace those locks with manual ones when they fail because they are alot cheaper.  But  the rear drive shaft needs a disconnect of some sort, wheather ya unbolt it or install a disconnect.

 I most likley will go with the disconnect but I do know that the front auto-locks work like they are supposed to. To make sure they are unlocked put in 2h and back up around 3-4 feet and then you are good to go. This transfer case does not show a Neutral but you shift to 4h by going straight foward to 4h. to get to 4l you have to pull back and to the left at the same time to get it to go over and back to 4l. If you push forward to the front and just leave it there you are in Neutral. It doesn't show it but you have to Pull it back with the clutch in or push to the right and then put it in whatever high range you want. It is a hard time getting to 4L. The shifter for the transfer case is a stiff shifter. I had it in 5th and let out the clutch and no miles or speed showed so that is behind the transfer case on the output shaft. I just wonder if the thing would get enough lube or If this would stay in neutral. I had a friend tow me around on a back road and it never jumpped into any gear and I never heard anything that sounded like it was grinding in the case. We hit some pretty strong bumps and did a bunch of bone jarring things but it never tried to shift back into anything. If the auto locks are working right which I think they are I may be able to do this without any mods at all.I am thinking that there was a neutral but for some reason it is wiped off the knob or they never put it on the shifter??? For all I know..It may be the wrong shift knob for the case? Anyway I think I will try some local runs and see if the shifter will jump into another position. Back when they made this model they didn't have many of the flatbed type tow trucks and the older type had to be able to tow the rear or front wheels on the ground. I am still looking for a Isuzu owners manual. Maybe that could shed light on this model. Will let you know, Dan

Well, tomorrow I go back to the VA for this next test. I am looking for a driveshaft used with the disconnect. If I can't find one i will have to pay the big dogs for sure!!There is some places that sale these items when the y sale there old toad or quit rving..May get lucky..Hope so, Dan

Ebay!  Probably your best bet.  I still would pull the drive shaft before I would spend all that money.  Only takes me five minutes.

And Oh yeah, to a fellow vereran, GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR TESTS!

 Hi, The results are in!!! I have a small ulcer and NO Cancer!!!!!! I think you can tell That I am a...little Happy!!!
I will do the driveshaft like you said till i can find one. the front AutoLocking hubs will be done first I am getting a set from J.C.Witney for $150.00. that is about the best price I have found. Ebay and another site you may not know about called RV Exit. I will try and get the link to show.
                        http://www.rvexit.com/default.asp

Some of you may need this too!!  I am never going to get any sleep tonight with the good news!! I don't think Deb will too, I may have to find something to keep us both busy like a Puzzle or ?? Maybe a good Movie!
 Anyway, Thanks for the help and prayers and i will let you know how it goes. I thought I would try and give you a picture to  have a face with the name. Hope this is small enough, Dan

Wonderful news!  I am very happy for you. 

I used to pull the drive shaft on my Explorer all the time.  The first time I did it I had a tough time breaking the cap screws loose as I think they were put in with lock tite.  After that there was nothing to it.  I carried an old canvas that I would lay down and then lay on it so as to keep clean.

It was a pain, but I got used to it and didn't want to pay all that money for a drive shaft dis-engage.

That is Awesome Dan! (not that you havean ulser just that it is not as bad as what was feared)

Back at ya with the pic! Cheers

 Hi, More great news!! A friend of mine has a son who has a 16 foot flat bed and only wants $150. I got it and I have another friend that is getting ready to retire and travel in his 'new to him' 95 Revcon its a 36 footer so He is happy, But has needed to buy all the goodies like a tow bar and a Brake Buddy and a wiring harness and the relay for the Brake switch tow cables and a cover when they are using the toad. I just sold him all I had for $700.  Yes I know it is cheap but I want him to be able to afford a couple of tanks of Gas!!! That money will will buy the trailer and the controler and the wiring harnass. Who knows, I may be able to get a couple of tanks of gas myself!!  Just to be sure With all this good news I bought four Quick Picks for the Power Ball!! I'm not greedy...a couple of hundred thou would make things good here!! Let someone else get the big bucks!! And If I win, I will die with a smile on my face!!!

 Well, Just a update to let you know we got a flat bed trailer to tow the Isuzu and I got a small storade shed, 33X57and about 4-5 feet tall that can go on the front of the trailer to hold the chairs, tables and other junk that wouldn't fit in the truck. So much for all wheels down. I took all the stuff off and sold it to another guy who is going to tow a jeep and I made him a deal for the hitch, and brake system and lights with the  diodes and all and That helped pay for the trailer and get what I need to finish it and some left over!! I would say that was a good trade!!! Have a good one, Dan   

Well, We had our trial run and with the storage pod and trooper on the trailer. it towed better than any of the all four downs I have towed in the past. I also have the electric brakes working and over the mountain pass to where we are at now was really neat to use them all or just the trailer brakes by themselves. It worked really neat!!

been doing lots of works yesterday. when i encounter a problem in my trooper. i found out that i have similar problem. i need to do this isuzu repair today and tomorrow because i need to go to the a trip using my trooper. eventually, i found automd where it gives me some pointers on how to deal with this problem. and when i found this community, there are lots of tips and techniques that i have read and learned. so i think i can work on my trooper today.